#1671: “Pondering the Path of Pugilism”

[21:47] *** Sat Jun 30 2007 - LOGGING START ***
[21:47] *** Now talking in #suburbansenshi
[21:47] <@SpeedRcrX> The topic's been Pro Wrestling for the last few days, and I'm not done yet
[21:47] <@SpeedRcrX> I just read something that sticks with me:
[21:48] <@SpeedRcrX> "Some people dismiss wrestling all too easily because of its carnival roots and ridiculous plots. But really, what's so rational about dressing up in colored armor and beating your fellow man as half-naked women cheer you on at the coliseum? I've just described the nation's most popular sport, professional football."
[21:48] <// J_Daito //> I think most people are annoyed because the outcome is decided.
[21:49] <@SpeedRcrX> Wrestling is, I'm gonna submit, a different kind of competition.
[21:49] <@SpeedRcrX> The quest for the belt is about who's the best all over performer.
[21:49] <@SpeedRcrX> If you're good on the mic, popular with the crowd, a good entertainer, you earn a push that get you the belt.
[21:49] <// J_Daito //> Or if you marry the boss' daughter
[21:50] <@SpeedRcrX> ... Ignoring politics and s[BLEEP]t
[21:50] <@SpeedRcrX> Wrestling is still an open competition. Can you be the best damn in-ring worker and performer?
[21:50] <@SpeedRcrX> Can you do what it takes to EARN the right to wear the big gold belt?
[21:51] <@SpeedRcrX> (and BTW I LOVE TNA's new Big Gold Belt)
[21:51] <@SpeedRcrX> So in that way, you're still working, training and sweating to earn the RIGHT to get the 1-2-3.
[21:51] <@SpeedRcrX> So while the match OUTCOME might be fixed, you still need to legitimately EARN the right to achieve the fix.
[21:53] <@SpeedRcrX> In other words, it's like a talent competition. The real test of a champion is how well he performs all through the year, not just in a match. The celebrations at the end of some title matches are like the awards ceremony. After busting your ass off in the under and mid cards for years, you earn the "Emmy" of scoring the pin at a PPV with millions watching.
[21:53] <// J_Daito //> Aren't you just rationalizing, Ten'ou?
[21:53] <// J_Daito //> I mean, David Arquette didn't do anything and he got to wear the WCW belt.
[21:54] <@SpeedRcrX> And WCW folded soon after.
[21:54] <@SpeedRcrX> People still respect the belt and what it stands for. If you don't deserve to ear the belt they will let you know.
[21:55] <@SpeedRcrX> You only earn the right to wear it after proving yourself.
[21:55] <@SpeedRcrX> So while your individual actions in *a* match may not mean much, because the end is set up, all your actions prior, in all your matches prior, decide whether you even EARN the right to have that match.
[21:56] * @SpeedRcrX is away: It's still an open competition, it just takes place over the span of a career not a single match.
[21:56] *** Disconnected
[21:56] *** Sat Jun 30 2007 - LOGGING END ***

#1670: “Rage of the Light and Serious Kind”

[07:20] *** Fri Jun 29 2007 - LOGGING START ***
[07:20] *** Now talking in #suburbansenshi
[07:20] * @SpeedRcrX is still reading about benoit
[07:20] <@SpeedRcrX> It looks like his child had autism called "Fragile X Syndrome" and that put a great deal of stress on the marriage.
[07:21] * FireFly_9 doesn't know much about Fragile X but she's heard that basically it leads to a situation where the child ends up hospitalized for the rest of its life and then put in homes because the parents can't handle it any longer.
[07:23] <flame_SNIPER> So you think maybe the stress of dealing with the kid lead to an argument and then things got rough? I mean I could see it, being a wrestler means you're on the road huundreds of days a year, the mom would be shouldering the burden of dealing with a "difficult" child (gomen, it'searly, I don't know how better to put this)
[07:24] <// J_Daito //> Maybe he just said "f[BLEEP]k it" after whatever what happened to the wife and decided to end the child's suffering before taking responsibility and killing himself
[07:24] <flame_SNIPER> how the hell is suicide after two mureders "taking responsibility?"
[07:24] <flame_SNIPER> More like evading it, if you ask me.
[07:24] <Mizunomics01> There is a tragic irony here.
[07:25] <Mizunomics01> If Daniel Benoit's Fragile X was the cause of the tension...
[07:25] <Mizunomics01> MIT just potentially found the cure a day or so after the deaths.
[07:26] <@SpeedRcrX> ...f[BLEEP]king s[BLEEP]t.
[07:26] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> "ATLANTA–Investigators are looking into who altered an online encyclopedia's entry for Canadian wrestler Chris Benoit to mention his wife's death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son."
[07:26] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> "Benoit's Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife's death."
[07:27] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> "A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said yesterday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based."
[07:27] * [gTV]C'est_la_V has more info on that
[07:27] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> Oh yeah?
[07:27] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> "Chris Benoit mystery editor confesses: claims "terrible coincidence"
[07:28] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> "Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this,"
[07:28] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> The Full confession
[07:28] <@SpeedRcrX> man something still f[BLEEP]king smells, and it's not my jockstrap
[07:28] <flame_SNIPER> Your what
[07:28] <@SpeedRcrX> nothing
[07:29] <Mizunomics01> Just... how far does the transvestism go, Haruka-san?
[07:29] <@SpeedRcrX> Shut up it's just comfy.
[07:31] * [gTV]Aya_Reiko was watching Nancy Grace
[07:31] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "-Grace asked Dr. Bethany Marshall about whether he'd need special treatment to develop as much as he could. She wanted to know why someone would keep it secret. The doctor said four percent of all homicides include a suicide. She said often men who kill their wives, children, and then themselves have an extreme personality disorder and then marry a normal woman. She said what might have happened is that the little boy was about to go off to school so the illness was about to be exposed. Given that this wrestler who homicidal, he could have felt his wife and child were exposing him to harm in his career or humiliation and combined with steroid use, it could have caused such actions. She men who commit crimes of passion believe their partner is exposing them to danger, so they act out."
[07:32] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "-Dr. Gary Wadler was then brought on the show as a crawler listed young wrestler deaths: Mike Von Erich (23), Louie Spicolli (27), Art Barr (28), Gino Hernandez (29), Jay Youngblood (30), Rick McGraw (30), Joey Marella (30 - a referee who died in a car wreck), Ed Gantner (31), Buzz Sawyer (32), Crash Holly (32), Kerry Von Erich (33), D.J. Peterson (33), Eddie Gilbert (33), The Renegade (33), Owen Hart (33), Chris Candido (33), Adrian Adonis (34), Gary Albright (34), Bobby Duncum Jr. (34), Yokozuna (34), Big D[BLEEP]k Dudley (34), Brian Pillman (35), Barianna Komlos (35), Pitbull #2 (36), The Wall/Malice (36)."
[07:33] <@SpeedRcrX> ...Yokozuna's dead... ?
[07:33] * @SpeedRcrX bangs her head on the wall
[07:33] <@SpeedRcrX> It's f[BLEEP]king interesting to me
[07:33] <@SpeedRcrX> that legends from the 70's and early 80's are still alive and kicking
[07:34] <@SpeedRcrX> and the generation that came into the biz in the late 80'sis f[BLEEP]king dropping like flies.
[07:34] <Mizunomics01> Connect your own dots.
[07:34] <@SpeedRcrX> Indeed.
[07:35] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "Another guest said "possibly accessory to murder" is at stake for the doctor. "If he gave her medications that he should not have been taking, and that medication brought him to snap, there's going to be potential liability."
[07:38] * [gTV]Aya_Reiko also watched Hannity and Combs
[07:39] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> God thank goodness you got assigned Faux I'd have to wash out my eyes
[07:39] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> They had Debra from WCW on
[07:39] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "Debra Marshall appeared on the show first, and was questioned about the use of steroids in World Wrestling Entertainment while she was with the company and married to Austin. She told of how she’d seen him do steroids before, going on to say, “If you think about it, look at the record, look at the record of how many wrestlers, the record pretty much tells it all…sixty wrestlers have died in ten years under the age of 45…and how many had enlarged hearts?. It’s just so sad because something has to be done.”"
[07:39] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "She added that she had witnessed Austin experience panic attacks and become paranoid, saying his rages were “attributed to steroids,” adding, “three times, I’ve seen him attack me. At work, people would know it and they’d cover the bruises on my face.”"
[07:39] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "Marshall was questioned whether or not that her experiences could make her believe that Chris Benoit did what he did. She replied, “The last time Steve attacked me, alcohol was involved. He jumped on me with his knee in my back pounding me in the back and in the face. I thought I was going to die and I can totally understand what Nancy felt in the last few seconds of her life. I thought I was going to die.”"
[07:40] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "She went on to say that nobody in WWE would have done anything about it, as Austin was making “millions of dollars for Vince” and said she wished she had spoken up earlier, giving the impression she thought Nancy and Daniel Benoit may still be alive today if she had. The hosts questioned whether Debra meant WWE were covering up the domestic abuse allegedly carried out by Austin. She said yes, and that WWE doesn’t want bad publicity on it’s wrestlers. She added, “to have Stone Cold Steve Austin arrested? My God. They put that under the table. They hush-hushed it and had me sign a gag order for a year that I couldn’t talk about this because I could totally bring down their top star.”"
[07:40] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> "The statement issued by WWE stating that the double murder-suicide was not “roid rage” related was read out. Marshall responded by saying, “They’re excellent at deflecting the heat on them. They’re deflecting the heat and they’re trying to insert another story to get it away from the steroid rage. I know it as fact that when Steve Austin, - he last time he was pounding on me - it was a rage. It was the most horrifying thing you’ve ever seen. When I called the cops, he ran out the door, yanked the phone lines out, unplugged the garage door openers, yanked the wires out…so I couldn’t leave. There’s something similar to all this.”"
[07:40] * FireFly_9 coughs
[07:40] <FireFly_9> I knew it.
[07:40] <FireFly_9> I know it.
[07:42] <SpeedRcrX> Wrestlemag piece on why the WWE\'s wellness policies have to change
[07:42] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> Ano...
[07:42] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> for a little while can we stop talking about this
[07:42] * [gTV]C'est_la_V gets depressed when she thinks about it too much.
[07:42] <@SpeedRcrX> Sorry neko-chan
[07:42] * GERMATOID WILL LIGHTEN THE MOOD!
[07:43] <GERMATOID> I HAVE THE PERFECT THING! MUAHAHAHAHA!




[07:45] <@SpeedRcrX> LOL what the
[07:45] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> XD that si so bad
[07:45] <FireFly_9> Well, I'm traumatized.
[07:46] <GERMATOID> I'D ALSO LIKE TO PIMP A NEAT NEW UTILITY FOR WINDOWS XP AND VISTA
[07:46] <GERMATOID> IT'S A 3D VIRTUAL DESKTOP THAT WORKS IN THE FORM OF A ROTATING CUBE THAT GIVES YOU 4 DESKTOPS SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY USE IN LINUX
[07:47] <GERMATOID> IT'S FREE AND UNDER ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT (THEY JUST UPDATED IT TWO DAYS AGO) AND IT'S *REALLY* HANDY! MUAAHAHAHAHAHAH!
[07:51] <GERMATOID> A DEMO
[07:51] * [gTV]C'est_la_V is going to download that and install it
[07:52] <=^catablanca^=> Oh great I'm going to be stuck doing tech support again ><
[07:52] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> :P
[07:53] <Mizunomics01> just introduce a patch that fixes the problem but majkes the machine go subtly slower. Keep this up for a few months and eventually the user will think their machine is useless and that they will need to buy a new one to gain a speed benefit.
[07:53] <Mizunomics01> It's very useful for Mizunomics' strategem of planned obsolescence.
[07:53] <@SpeedRcrX> ...You're a sinister one, you know that, Ami-chan?
[07:53] * Mizunomics01 tilts her glasses and grins
[07:53] *** Disconnected
[07:53] *** Fri Jun 29 2007 - LOGGING END ***

#1669: “Tabroid Rage”

[08:45] *** Wed Jun 27 2007 - LOGGING START ***
[08:45] *** Now talking in #suburbansenshi
[08:45] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> So this is what we know about Chris Benoit so far:
[08:47] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> Benoit's 43-year-old wife was killed Friday in a family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle. Daniel Benoit was probably killed late Saturday or early Sunday, and was found in his bed, according to the District Attorney.
[08:47] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> Chris Benoit, 40, apparently hanged himself several hours to as long as a day later. His body was found in a weight room, his body found hanging from the pulley of a piece of exercise equipment.
[08:49] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> A closed Bible was placed next to the bodies of the wife and son.
[08:49] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> WWE said on its Web site that it asked police to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who had received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning.
[08:49] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> WWE Chairman Vince McMahon made the following statement yesterday just prior to the ECW Broadcast:
[08:50] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> "Last night on Monday Night Raw, the WWE presented a special tribute show, recognizing the career of Chris Benoit. However, now some 26 hours later, the facts of this horrific tragedy are now apparent. Therefore, other than my comments, there will be no mention of Mr. Benoit tonight. On the contrary, tonight's show will be dedicated to everyone who has been affected by this terrible incident. This evening marks the first step of the healing process. Tonight, the WWE performers will do what they do better than anyone else in the world – entertain you."
[08:51] <[gTV]Aya_Reiko> Ara, McMahon-san must have been very angry that he cleared out the arena for that service and lost all that money.
[08:51] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> Maybe. If you watch the video, you can tell he was more than a little pissed
[08:54] <@SpeedRcrX> I can't say I blame him.
[08:55] <@SpeedRcrX> I felt f[BLEEP]king betrayed, when RIGHT After Raw I found out the details.
[08:55] * @SpeedRcrX still doesn't know what to think; if there was ONE f[BLEEP]king wrestler she respected for his work ethic and dedication it was Chris Benoit.
[08:56] <FireFly_9> Haruka-poppa.
[08:56] <FireFly_9> We don't know the details. We know the aftermath but that's not the same thing.
[08:56] <FireFly_9> Life != CSI.
[08:57] <FireFly_9> Benoit could have been set up. As some have said, perhaps his wife killed the child and he flew into a rage upon finding out this fact, committed an act of hot-blooded murder, regretted what he did and killed himself in grief.
[08:57] <FireFly_9> There was an "or" between thosr two sentences.
[08:58] <Mizunomics01> Everything I've heard regarding the Time of Death indicates the wife died before the son, Hotaru-chan.
[08:58] <FireFly_9> Yes, but that's all rumour. None of it has been confirmed officially.
[08:58] <@SpeedRcrX> WWE has a timeline thing, let me look.
[08:58] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> Minna-san.
[08:58] * [gTV]C'est_la_V sighs
[08:59] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> I've been an idol-watcher for my whole life, and kami-sama knows I've fallen hard for them (and I still do)
[08:59] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> But, even I know that we don't know the truth behind our idols.
[08:59] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> We see what they let us, and the world see.
[08:59] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> An idol has to always show the world her best smile, even on the days her heart is breaking.
[09:00] <// J_Daito //> Not if you're Britney Spears, then you just show up drunk in a limo with no underwear on and give the whole world a show.
[09:00] * [gTV]C'est_la_V ignores Jedite
[09:00] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> Demo... we don't know what pain Benoit-san might have been in, personally.
[09:00] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> We don't know how much he might have been hurting, or what happened, or what he knew.
[09:01] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> They said he sent wierd text messages before all this happened. We don't know what they say (yet).
[09:01] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> He could have been in incredible pain inside.
[09:02] * [gTV]C'est_la_V doesn't want to judge him.
[09:02] <@SpeedRcrX> Man neither do I.
[09:02] <@SpeedRcrX> I Loved him, man. As much as one can love a sports idol.
[09:03] <@SpeedRcrX> I respected the HELL out of him. This tears me up; I'm not trying to jump on the "let's s[BLEEP]t on Benoit" bandwagon here.
[09:03] <@SpeedRcrX> I want to know what the f[BLEEP]k happened. I want to know the Why
[09:03] <flame_SNIPER> Haruka-san, the cold truth is, as Minako-chan was saying, is that we only got to see the side of him that was on TV
[09:04] <@SpeedRcrX> Man I saw Stone Cold, John Cena and Steve Regal almost in f[BLEEP]king tears. They aren't good enough actors to lie. The man they knew was a good man, and they wept for him.
[09:04] <@SpeedRcrX> Something's not right here. I dunno what it is.
[09:04] <Mizunomics01> Haruka-san...
[09:05] <Mizunomics01> You know you might be trying to justify this.
[09:05] <@SpeedRcrX> Justify it? I can't justify murder.
[09:06] <@SpeedRcrX> Am I trying to find somethhing, anything, that doesn't make someone I respected and admired look like s[BLEEP]t? Maybe. But I honestly believe he was better than this.
[09:06] <FireFly_9> It's always hard when an idol falls from grace. It's a pity we fixate on the idols so remote from us rather than the heroes around us every day.
[09:06] <@SpeedRcrX> Man
[09:07] <@SpeedRcrX> to be blunt, we're not set up like that as a society. We know more about the lives of complete strangers on the TV than we do about our own neighbors.
[09:07] <@SpeedRcrX> and I ain't gonna apologize for it.
[09:08] <@SpeedRcrX> I never knew how much... how much esteem I had placed in Benoit till this happened.
[09:08] <@SpeedRcrX> And it's a lot.
[09:08] <flame_SNIPER> He was a good wrestler. You liked his Wrestling.
[09:09] <flame_SNIPER> I mean you're equating how well he delivered a "Flair chop" in the ring with who he is.
[09:09] <@SpeedRcrX> Man NO.
[09:09] <@SpeedRcrX> I KNOW that what goes on in the ring is staged, and that there are good and bad people out there.
[09:09] <@SpeedRcrX> Over the years I've heard of tons of wrestlers getting into s[BLEEP]t.
[09:09] <@SpeedRcrX> But not Benoit.
[09:10] <flame_SNIPER> You don't have the whole picture, though.
[09:10] <@SpeedRcrX> Neither do you, okay?
[09:11] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> Hold up guys
[09:11] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> I'm going to reprint the WWE Timeline here.
[09:12] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane>

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[09:12] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Saturday, June 23, 2007
[09:17] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Chris Benoit was scheduled to appear at the WWE SmackDown/ ECW live event in Beaumont, Texas
[09:17] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 3:30pm
[09:17] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ A co-worker received a voice message from Benoit. The message from Benoit stated he missed his flight and over slept and would be late to the WWE Live Event. The co-worker called Benoit back, Benoit confirmed everything he said in his voice message and sounded tired and groggy. Benoit then stated, “I love you”. The co-worker stated that it was “out of context.”
[09:17] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 3:42pm
[09:17] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ The same co-worker was concerned with Benoit’s tone and demeanor and called Benoit for a second time. Benoit did not answer the call and the co-worker left a message stating “just call me back.”
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 3:44pm
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Benoit called the co-worker back stating he didn’t answer the call because he was on the phone with Delta changing his flight. Benoit stated he had a real stressful day due to Nancy and Daniel being sick with food poisoning. They discussed travel plans for the WWE Tour of Texas with Benoit still sounding groggy at this point according to the co-worker.
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 4:30pm
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ A co-worker who consistently travels with Benoit, called Benoit from outside Houston airport and Benoit answered. Benoit told the co-worker that Nancy was throwing up blood and that Daniel was also throwing up. Benoit thought they had food poisoning. Benoit stated he changed his flight and he would be arriving into Houston at 6:30pm. Benoit told the co-worker to drive onto the WWE event.
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 5:35pm
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Benoit called WWE Talent Relations stating that his son was throwing up and that he and Nancy were in the hospital with their son, and that Benoit would be taking a later flight into Houston, landing late, but would make the WWE live event in Beaumont.
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 6:10pm
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ A representative of Talent Relations called Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations asked Benoit what time Benoit was getting into Beaumont. Benoit responded he was leaving Atlanta at 9:20pm Eastern time arriving into Houston at 9:24pm Central time. The representative from Talent Relations advised Benoit that it would be too late to make the WWE live event in Beaumont. Benoit apologized citing he had a family emergency. The representative from Talent Relations suggested to Benoit that instead of going to the WWE live event in Beaumont, Benoit should take the flight to Houston, rest up and be ready for the Vengeance Pay-Per-View event.
[09:18] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 6:13pm
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ The representative from Talent Relations called Benoit to reconfirm the travel plans with no answer from Benoit. The representative from Talent Relations left a voice message to take the flight and rest up.
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Sunday, June 24, 2007
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Text messages sent to co-workers from Chris Benoit and Nancy Benoit’s cell phones:
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Text Message 1
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ From: Benoit’s cell phone
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ When: 6/24 at 3:53am from
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
[09:19] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Text Message 2
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ From: Benoit’s cell phone
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ When: 6/24 at 3:53am
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Message: The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Text Message 3
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ When: 6/24 at 3:54am
[09:20] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
[09:21] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦
[09:21] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Text Message 4
[09:21] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Sent to: Two Co-Workers (the same who had verbal correspondence with Benoit the day before)
[09:21] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
[09:21] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ When: 6/24 at 3:55am
[09:21] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Message: C, S. My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Text Message 5
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Sent to: A Co-Worker who consistently traveled with Benoit
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ From: Nancy Benoit’s cell phone
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ When: 6/24 at 3:58am
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Message: My address is 130 Green Meadow Lane. Fayetteville Georgia. 30215
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ WWE made several attempts to contact Benoit via phone and text messages, as well as, the local hospitals in the Atlanta area. As of 11:00 pm Sunday night there was no contact made with Benoit.
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ Monday, June 25, 2007
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 12:30pm
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ WWE was notified of text messages sent to the two co-workers.
[09:22] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 12:45pm
[09:23] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ WWE contacted the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office and requested them to go to Benoit’s residence
[09:23] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ 4:00pm
[09:23] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> ♦ WWE received a call from the Fayetteville County Sheriff’s office, advising that they entered the house of Benoit and found 3 deceased bodies (a male, a female and a child). The Fayette County Sheriff’s office has secured the house as a “major crime scene” and that the Fayette County Sheriff’s Office had no further information.
[09:23] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane>

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[09:27] <@SpeedRcrX> ...
[09:27] <FireFly_9> Well now we know the content of the text messages, assuming WWE isn't holding anything back
[09:27] <@SpeedRcrX> I heard rumours someone from Stamford CT was editing the Wikipedia page.
[09:28] * @SpeedRcrX goes to look
[09:29] <@SpeedRcrX> ♦ . It is notable that Benoit's bio on the WWE website fails to mention the WCW victory,[6] though its WCW Championship title history does.[8]
[09:29] <@SpeedRcrX> you know what, F[BLEEP]K you WWE.
[09:29] <@SpeedRcrX> He won that damn belt.
[09:30] <@SpeedRcrX> Wrestlemenia XX was NOT the culmination of his goal to win the World Title because he HAD ALREADY F[BLEEP]KING WON IT.
[09:30] <@SpeedRcrX> WCW Existed. GET OVER IT.
[09:30] <@SpeedRcrX> You know what pisses me off.
[09:31] <@SpeedRcrX> "WWE is stunned and saddened by the details released by authorities concerning the double homicide-suicide involving Chris Benoit, his wife, Nancy, and his son, Daniel. However, WWE is concerned with the sensationalistic reporting and speculation being undertaken by some"
[09:31] <@SpeedRcrX> "WWE® Shocked At Latest Developments In Benoit Tragedy, Concerned By Sensationalistic Reporting"
[09:32] <@SpeedRcrX> What reporting pray tell? Is it the reporting about what Benoit may / may not have done?
[09:32] <@SpeedRcrX> " Steroids were not, and could not, be related to the cause of death (asphyxiation). Authorities had no factual basis to speculate as to Benoit’s state of mind, and rightly did not do so."
[09:32] <@SpeedRcrX> "5. WWE strongly suggests that it is entirely wrong for speculators to suggest that steroids had anything to do with these senseless acts, especially when the authorities plainly stated there is no evidence that Benoit had steroids in his body, pending the toxicological reports, and that they had no evidence at this time as to the motive for these act"
[09:33] <@SpeedRcrX> WHAT THE F[BLEEP]K.
[09:33] <@SpeedRcrX> Who gives a S[BLEEP]T about the reputation of STEROIDS.
[09:33] <// J_Daito //> WWE needs Steroids to fuel their battling giant walls of man-flesh.
[09:33] <@SpeedRcrX> Man
[09:33] <@SpeedRcrX> It f[BLEEP]king sickens me.
[09:45] * @SpeedRcrX is away: This whole thing has f[BLEEP]ked me up
[09:46] <Mizunomics01> Toxicology reports on the bodies should be in in two weeks.
[09:46] <Mizunomics01> /awya we should know more then.
[09:46] * Mizunomics01 is away: ^
[09:47] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> Poor Haruka-san
[09:48] <[gTV]Karasuma_Akane> Boss, do I still have to do that exposé on O.J. Simpson?
[09:48] <[gTV]C'est_la_V> Hai.
[09:48] * [gTV]Karasuma_Akane is away: Dammit
[09:48] * [gTV]C'est_la_V is away: Gomen Nasai
[13:37] <FireFly_9> Something interesting.
[13:37] <FireFly_9> From the AP:
[13:38] <FireFly_9> "Investigators found anabolic steroids in the house and want to know whether the muscle man nicknamed "The Canadian Crippler" was unhinged by the bodybuilding drugs, which can cause paranoia, depression and explosive outbursts known as "roid rage.""
[13:38] <FireFly_9> "Benoit received drug deliveries from a Florida business that sold steroids, human growth hormone and testosterone on the Internet, according to the Albany County, N.Y., District Attorney's Office, which is investigating the business, MedXLife.com."
[13:38] <FireFly_9> "Six people, including two of the pharmacy's owners, have pleaded guilty in the investigation, and 20 more have been arrested, including doctors and pharmacists."
[13:39] <FireFly_9> "The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., issued a statement Tuesday saying steroids "were not and could not be related to the cause of death.""
[13:39] <FireFly_9> "Steroids have been linked to the deaths of several professional wrestlers in recent years. Eddie Guerrero, one of Benoit's best friends, died in 2005 from heart failure linked to long-term steroid use."
[13:39] <FireFly_9> "The father of Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig blamed steroids and painkillers for Hennig's drug overdose death in 2003. Davey Boy Smith, the "British Bulldog," died in 2002 from heart failure that a coroner said was probably caused by steroids."
[13:39] <FireFly_9> Interesting how WWE is being so vocal and adamant about Steroids.
[13:40] <FireFly_9> I wonder if there is a coverup going on. I would be extremely tragic if WWE had "encouraged" its superstars to use steroids and it resulted in an unbalancing of Mr. Benoit.
[13:41] * FireFly_9 is away: They doth protest too much, methinks.
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#1668: “That which was inspirational now looks sinister. And I know now what to believe anymore. ”

[23:34] *** Mon Jun 25 2007 - LOGGING START ***
[23:34] *** Now talking in #suburbansenshi




[23:34] <@SpeedRcrX> Man
[23:34] <@SpeedRcrX> I was gonna hold off for a few days before getting back to being online here
[23:35] <@SpeedRcrX> but I just found out today Chris Benoit was dead along with his family. I felt bad about it, and f[BLEEP]ked up at the irony that the announcement came on the same day that the fake McMahon death angle was going to be played out
[23:35] <@SpeedRcrX> Then after crying my heart out during the three hour tribute
[23:35] <@SpeedRcrX> after feeling SO BAD for this man and his family
[23:35] <@SpeedRcrX> I see the headline above
[23:35] <@SpeedRcrX> and I don't know
[23:35] <@SpeedRcrX> I feel like s[BLEEP]t. For so many reasons
[23:36] <@SpeedRcrX> Did I just praise a murderer?
[23:36] <@SpeedRcrX> F[BLEEP]k.
[23:36] <@SpeedRcrX> they says profanity is for when words fail
[23:36] <@SpeedRcrX> and they fail me now.
[23:36] <@SpeedRcrX> f[BLEEP]k. F[BLEEP]K.
[23:36] *** @SpeedRcrX [THaruka@FXL.blaze.co.jp] has quit IRC (F[BLEEP]k)
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